GOING CHRISTMAS SHOPPING
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Welcome back to another episode of Dynasty Logics.
Now that almost every player in the league has been injured, incarcerated, got COVID, or for you lucky owners that have none of these issues. It is time to go Christmas Shopping with the guys from Dynasty Logics. Time to get ready for your championship run, or find a gem for next season.
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Um, mic check. Is this thing on? Are we talking?
Bobby Stone:Is this happening? Is this? Oh? Is this dynasty logics? Oh, I'm
Bobby Stone:dusting off my mind here. Wow. Can you hear me? Can you see me?
Bobby Stone:Oh, they you I must this is actually happening your title.
Bobby Stone:Holy shit. What's it how many weeks it has been? It's the
Bobby Stone:quiet time we disappeared in the middle of the season fade into
Bobby Stone:the night. Nice. I went on some vacation we just you know had a
Bobby Stone:little Thanksgiving you know Happy belated Thanksgiving to
Bobby Stone:you. I know I talked to you but you know, tells me over the over
Bobby Stone:the airwaves now we
Bobby Stone:should Alright, so Tommy? I know. Yeah, well, I was on
Bobby Stone:vacation. Fantasy Football wasn't but the way my team's
Bobby Stone:look. For the players that are alive, I'm happy about most of
Bobby Stone:them are dead. So not surprised. And and I have I have two teams
Bobby Stone:that are playoff that are in playoff contention. And I have
Bobby Stone:one that is probably the worst record I've ever seen. From my
Bobby Stone:own standpoint, but I'm okay with that. I am okay with that.
Bobby Stone:Because it's it's the process of staying true to it. You rebuild,
Bobby Stone:you're rebuilding. They're all on rebuilding. So the fact that
Bobby Stone:they're even in I have two teams that shouldn't even be in the
Bobby Stone:run for playoff contention yet. So I'm happy with that. But, you
Bobby Stone:know, December, December, you and I have talked for the
Bobby Stone:listeners who are listening to us again. You know, December,
Bobby Stone:December has been an important month that you and I both talked
Bobby Stone:about. And we're just getting started with December so you're
Bobby Stone:gonna probably be playing some playoff football, right? I gotta
Bobby Stone:imagine, how are you looking?
Tommy D.:Let's let's start with this. Right. And this was a
Tommy D.:perfect conversation I had with someone really good teams in
Tommy D.:your league, those consistent championship contenders right,
Tommy D.:which my roster has happened to be right now. A really good
Tommy D.:early, kind of quiet in the middle. Yeah, took a couple of
Tommy D.:losses in the middle of the season.
Tommy D.:And then the last five, six weeks, my team has clicked
Tommy D.:right. That's what's important. Middle of the season isn't as
Tommy D.:important, right? As you think it is. You're going to get in
Tommy D.:position. But you want to tweak that you want to be the guy
Tommy D.:makes a statement early, comes out makes a statement at the
Tommy D.:end. Speaking of dead rosters? Yes, I have a band aid job just
Tommy D.:like everyone else. And amazingly, I've locked up all my
Tommy D.:diversity playoff spots, locked up a couple buys. But still,
Tommy D.:right. And this is what we're going to talk about. In this
Tommy D.:show. We're going to talk about more strategy of what I'm
Tommy D.:looking to do as a championship contender coming up in the next
Tommy D.:couple of weeks. And what a team who's rebuilding like Bobby,
Tommy D.:like what he's looking to possibly do in the next couple
Tommy D.:of weeks because this is dynasty. You should always be
Tommy D.:looking somewhere else. And there's two sides of it like
Tommy D.:yeah, I'm obviously looking a little bit ahead. I'm trying to
Tommy D.:tighten on my roster, get some depth. You know, we played a two
Tommy D.:quarterback you know, three running backs for wide receivers
Tommy D.:to tight ends kicker, full IDP, which is to DNS to D tackles.
Tommy D.:Four linebackers, two corners and two safeties. So I've
Tommy D.:already started that process of trying to back up my
Tommy D.:quarterbacks.
Tommy D.:I have Kyler Murray. I made sure I acquired Colt McCoy, obviously
Tommy D.:a couple weeks ago. Little things like that you can look
Tommy D.:ahead at longshot add routes, and add I made this week it was
Tommy D.:a guy Josh Johnson, who we liked in the offseason, rookie
Tommy D.:Lafayette I think, right, Louisiana Monroe. You know, he's
Tommy D.:a long shot in Seattle, but those are the dark throws that
Tommy D.:you might be able to dig into deep because listen, let's be
Tommy D.:honest, there is no backs available like em but your band
Tommy D.:aid and straws about let's play at Tevin Coleman. Mike Davis. I
Tommy D.:mean, even a guy like Alex Collins, who's starting it's
Tommy D.:eight nine points. It Listen, we all know the struggles real out
Tommy D.:there. I have teams in college spots that, you know, no, Henry,
Tommy D.:no McCaffrey. But if I have enough around it, and mean but
Tommy D.:we talked about this a couple of times. I have a seat floor wide
Tommy D.:receiver, right. So, you know from a championship point of
Tommy D.:view, I'm trying to see if I can acquire a couple of people To
Tommy D.:help me to run, am I going to be able to buy expensive running
Tommy D.:backs? No, nobody's going to give them up. But I'm looking at
Tommy D.:those teams who maybe are out, right and seeing where I can
Tommy D.:acquire from that point of view, if I can get a backup, you know,
Tommy D.:kind of, I'm trying to backup my running backs, I don't usually
Tommy D.:do it. But at this point in the stretch, my advice to people is
Tommy D.:backup your running backs, it's cheaper than trying to go buy a
Tommy D.:starter of someone because no one has been nobody's you Mo.
Tommy D.:Right?
Bobby Stone:Get I think that's that that's more than fair. It's
Bobby Stone:actually funny, because you and I were, were talking offline.
Bobby Stone:But I have a lot of those guys, the younger guys that I'm
Bobby Stone:watching and trying to let develop. And the other side of
Bobby Stone:the foot is that I have a lot of guys who've died. So I just need
Bobby Stone:guys who are playing now, because some of my projects are
Bobby Stone:just that they're still projects. So, um,
Tommy D.:and you're and you're right, and that's what that's
Tommy D.:what projects are, there's different types of projects,
Tommy D.:right, there's the project you have, that you hope will pan out
Tommy D.:that year, there's a project that you know, isn't going to
Tommy D.:hit till next year. And then there's a project that you can
Tommy D.:acquire during the season and and see what happens. And I'm
Tommy D.:glad you brought that up. Because this is the those are
Tommy D.:the kind of guys that I'm looking for. And that's where,
Tommy D.:you know, Josh Johnson comes into play. I'm looking at my
Tommy D.:watch list. And looking what rookie did I add in my watch
Tommy D.:list in July in June, that maybe was cut, maybe he's on. He's on
Tommy D.:a practice squad and some of these team and he's a free
Tommy D.:agent, you League? Those guys right now? Go look for that
Tommy D.:third, fourth, run them backwards, because I'm not
Tommy D.:trying to buy the backup like it's it's too pricey, because
Tommy D.:nobody is running backs. They're all down. So you know, what is?
Tommy D.:Is it a longshot? Yeah, but again, I'm I'm looking at him,
Tommy D.:maybe I can use him in three weeks or two weeks, you know,
Tommy D.:I'm looking at a little bit longer term play. We're on the
Tommy D.:flip side, you're a guy or if you're building, you're looking
Tommy D.:more to buy from my point of view. And so you're in the more
Tommy D.:funner position than I am.
Bobby Stone:Probably, except, you know, it's a matter of just
Bobby Stone:doing that and making it fun. Because there are times where
Bobby Stone:sometimes it's daunting, because you've got pieces that you
Tommy D.:you're going to get gooses dance cards or roses.
Tommy D.:Yeah, we
Bobby Stone:got to get that partner. Yeah, yep. So you know,
Bobby Stone:that's where that's where, you know, I think one of the things
Bobby Stone:that we were just talking about a couple minutes ago, that I
Bobby Stone:wanted to make sure that we hit on a little bit closer is a
Bobby Stone:consistency component, what we were talking about, in January,
Bobby Stone:February, March, going through the draft, we were talking about
Bobby Stone:watch lists. Hey, we are in December, talking about watch
Bobby Stone:lists again. So this is where it's starting to creep up. Back
Bobby Stone:in the beginning of the show, I was saying you know, in
Bobby Stone:December, this is where the guys that I am starting to really
Bobby Stone:focus on and watch like, are they I'll give you a guy right
Bobby Stone:now. JaJuan Johnson you know, New Orleans Saints. Tight End
Bobby Stone:have Adam Trotman kind of in front of them. But honestly,
Bobby Stone:they were
Tommy D.:Hills your only hope with him. Hills, your old
Bobby Stone:hill is my hope, because Winston would never
Bobby Stone:throw to a tight end. But you know, long the bigger stride
Bobby Stone:there is I'm trying to see which one was actually going to win.
Bobby Stone:And now I have the ability in December to watch if he's either
Bobby Stone:ain't going to develop or be Can I drop and go. So you know,
Tommy D.:I would go and see he's a hold of staff. I think
Tommy D.:it's Nick Barnett and they find out well I'll play him he's a
Tommy D.:pure Titan and I like Johnson but Johnson is one of those guys
Tommy D.:that we are in a van that oh van at sorry, van.
Bobby Stone:I just thought we were talking barns as well and
Bobby Stone:we were going into a defensive conversation already and I
Bobby Stone:wasn't ready for it.
Tommy D.:I was going back to the 90s a dive Barnett company
Tommy D.:that French company pastel color, sorry, who's a little
Tommy D.:retro. But anyways, Johnson's a hole for me because again, he's
Tommy D.:a guy that we talk about we like he's an athletic tight end but
Tommy D.:he's not a true tie that or he's not he hasn't honed those
Tommy D.:skills. So when you see him that's why he's goal line. He's
Tommy D.:very simple route CEO chip lock on the edge. So he's definitely
Tommy D.:a hole to I expect a lot from now. I think He's a touchdown
Tommy D.:dependent they don't throw them a lot in the middle of the field
Tommy D.:you know because again he still learned that position and you
Tommy D.:know that teams in flux anyways but you know nothing to do with
Tommy D.:Nikki V is a solid reliable tight end and I like him he's
Tommy D.:actually was a good pickup you know in that situation and
Tommy D.:there's a lot of those guys that you can you can find out there
Tommy D.:but yeah, I mean that's the patient's game you run dicey to
Tommy D.:like Don't be so isn't a drop guys type. You know, we know
Tommy D.:about this Titan save a couple years. I mean, I've had knocks
Tommy D.:as a dad drafted him, you know? So I mean, it takes three years
Tommy D.:you gotta wait three years sometimes when the payoff is the
Tommy D.:payoffs worth it.
Bobby Stone:I hate I still have OJ Howard on my, on my roster.
Bobby Stone:Um, I don't know what to do with them after after the season. But
Tommy D.:we'll get we'll get to that. I'm sure we'll have that
Tommy D.:discussion many times in the offseason. So I'm gonna bring it
Tommy D.:back. I'm gonna bring it back to that watchlist. Right that we
Tommy D.:talked about that you brought up again, right? And the reason why
Tommy D.:I see a guy like Josh Johnson who I attract you know, there's
Tommy D.:not a lot of news out there and you know, sometimes you don't
Tommy D.:see it because the guys on the practice squad or the name
Tommy D.:doesn't popped up. But again, those guys that I'm talking
Tommy D.:about, this is a time of year they come up right because this
Tommy D.:is the time of year teams either are that injured and broken down
Tommy D.:and or their season's over. So they're kind of getting a let's
Tommy D.:see, we got let's see what this young kids got. What the hell?
Tommy D.:That's important in the stretch, right? I mean, we laugh but I've
Tommy D.:been I can't tell you that the number of championship runs I've
Tommy D.:made and one with backup running backs. Right was with backups. I
Tommy D.:mean, Mike Davis last year right backup running backs would come
Tommy D.:in especially like later right? The Niners always have one
Tommy D.:right? Just get big deniers always have a back who shows up?
Tommy D.:All right, that's what Wilson was a couple years ago. Again,
Tommy D.:you know, you can hold it and you know, those are what I'm
Tommy D.:looking for like that long shot coming up on a team Seattle. So
Tommy D.:perfect shit show of a backfield. What the hell of
Tommy D.:like, I'd rather have Johnson than Adrian Peterson. I know
Tommy D.:what a VPS is, it? Is Seattle's out why they're gonna play
Tommy D.:Adrian Peterson. I don't think it gives me anything. But
Tommy D.:listen, they could give jobs on the ball. And he could play
Tommy D.:great sacks, you just drop them. But those are the guys you're
Tommy D.:going to revert to. And you can, you know, outsmart your league,
Tommy D.:right? You can you can get those guys before the new story comes
Tommy D.:out, because you already know about it. Because you already
Tommy D.:you know, you are attractive. I like that. And you know the
Tommy D.:name. So I mean, there's certain this is a part of the season
Tommy D.:where you're looking to, you know, clean up that research you
Tommy D.:did in the offseason, does any of those guys gonna pan out or
Tommy D.:any of those, you know, practice swag guys is gonna come up. And
Tommy D.:now I can add them, you know, and you're looking to tighten
Tommy D.:the ship. Right, and you're looking to rebuild, right?
Tommy D.:You're also looking to take advantage of trade situations.
Tommy D.:And from a point of view of a rebuilding franchise like Bobby,
Tommy D.:right? If I'm, if I'm somebody like that, and I actually do it
Tommy D.:as a winning franchise, I'm looking at teams who are making
Tommy D.:a run and have needs, and maybe you can get a cheaper guy, maybe
Tommy D.:you can get an IR guy, right. We thought we talked off air about
Tommy D.:this, like a Travis, etc. On what maybe I can give the guy a
Tommy D.:couple of starters for Travis ETR. At a decent price, right?
Tommy D.:Or Michael Thomas, right? If I'm rebuilding, I'm seeing if I can
Tommy D.:require somebody who's had a headache with somebody who's
Tommy D.:injured a couple of times, maybe I can get them at, at least as
Tommy D.:cheap as you can probably get them and get value that way,
Tommy D.:because some guys don't have draft picks. But those are the
Tommy D.:guys that I'm looking to go get, especially if you can find them
Tommy D.:on a championship contender who's got holes. I mean, if you
Tommy D.:happen to have run backs and fill a hole, and make a run,
Tommy D.:that's that's great, but you know, it's worth a shot. And
Tommy D.:that's the fun time of year. You can do stuff like that.
Bobby Stone:If you're the rebuilding franchise, though. I,
Bobby Stone:you know, just meet you. I've got to, I've got to assume that
Bobby Stone:we are. We're holding, we're in a holding pattern on moving in
Bobby Stone:draft picks at this point, if anything we're trying to acquire
Bobby Stone:more. Is that fair to say? I
Tommy D.:agree. I'm moving players. Oh, no. Yeah,
Tommy D.:wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly. I mean, if you had to give up
Tommy D.:maybe maybe a, you know, a lesser pick a major round pick
Tommy D.:or something like that. You know, for a big upside play. And
Tommy D.:this is something I've done and experienced, like, I can go back
Tommy D.:to Jamaal Charles I bought him when he was injured and he was
Tommy D.:he was injured on and off for like two and a half years.
Tommy D.:Right. And then he straightened it out.
Bobby Stone:Look through that list real quick because that's
Bobby Stone:not the first one. That's not the first one or is that the
Bobby Stone:last one that you've purchased or acquired while they've been
Bobby Stone:injured? Yeah. That list real quick.
Tommy D.:Why? It's often on huge McKean and Allen's another
Tommy D.:one we talked about. You know, I bought him when he when he was
Tommy D.:injured. Trying to think who else anyways, that's the example
Tommy D.:you can get value in a guy and when Keenan Allen was in people
Tommy D.:remember for like two and a half three years he was often on
Tommy D.:injured and then he had the injury people thought he was
Tommy D.:stuck again. I had to pay what he was worth then I didn't get
Tommy D.:him to steal them but now I did. Because if I waited a year I
Tommy D.:would have to pay twice as much. So those are the guys that you
Tommy D.:might be able to get. You know if I gotta give up me a mid
Tommy D.:round pick for a guy was a first round value and a potential you
Tommy D.:know lock solid dynasty guy from me for six seven years. Yeah,
Tommy D.:um, I'm looking at that to kick the tires on it's like getting
Tommy D.:an extra graphic from last year.
Bobby Stone:I think that's pretty fair. Honestly, I didn't
Bobby Stone:even put you on the spot there but I totally thought you had
Bobby Stone:more guys off the top yet.
Tommy D.:I definitely do I just couldn't take a while definitely
Tommy D.:is I mean, the opposite side works to like I traded Devonta
Tommy D.:Freeman you know any only had one more year left in the clip
Tommy D.:fell off. So it's like it's it's treat your own I look at it and
Tommy D.:play it but again, it's worth the risk if especially guys who
Tommy D.:are contenders. And I mean the bigger differences you know,
Tommy D.:guys in my situation who've been contenders and consistency in
Tommy D.:the playoffs. I'm probably not going to make the desperate buy.
Tommy D.:But the guys who haven't won and are in that position do a shot
Tommy D.:and I tell people absolutely worth the buy sell out to win a
Tommy D.:title Absolutely. Do I do it? No, but I don't have to. But
Tommy D.:your first one I don't blame you. Titles worth everything
Tommy D.:right dynasties. Legendary. You go down to the books, you win a
Tommy D.:title. So you should try to capitalize if I'm rebuilding,
Tommy D.:I'm capitalizing I'm hitting that gap going, Hey, you might
Tommy D.:look like you need a linebacker probably a tight end. I'm like,
Tommy D.:I got a couple. What do you think in here, like maybe I can
Tommy D.:get a prospect he's not happy with like, maybe you can get a
Tommy D.:clip or because he's been a headache. So you can get him
Tommy D.:cheaper, right? You can go by somebody like that. A little
Tommy D.:lesser value. Those are the guys you kick the tires on. That's
Tommy D.:why December is fun, because there's so many different sides
Tommy D.:of the ball and dynasty that you can look at. You can look at
Tommy D.:buying pieces for now, later, years down the line.
Bobby Stone:December is fun. And I can I can tell you offhand
Bobby Stone:that I've personally attempted to sell out a couple of times
Bobby Stone:over the years. And it it put me in a position where I was in the
Bobby Stone:middle of the hunt. Got myself to a couple of championships.
Bobby Stone:And you know, nobody remembers second place winner except the
Bobby Stone:second place winner and I was second place winner. So
Tommy D.:I remember I'll use don't worry about it. Right.
Bobby Stone:Well, well, again, you're the anomaly. But
Tommy D.:you and you alluded to and I thought you were actually
Tommy D.:gonna say it but the part that hurts about when you sell out,
Tommy D.:is it Cliff drop afterwards. And I am in it. Yep. And this goes
Tommy D.:to people who want it and and lost it right and I've seen both
Tommy D.:sides of it. And you're right I am the anomaly right and this is
Tommy D.:why I teach people I'm a big save save for component and
Tommy D.:dynasty right big save for because I've made the playoffs.
Tommy D.:I mean one year you know, last week I was posting stuff in the
Tommy D.:league and it was like 15 straight years have made the
Tommy D.:playoffs right there's a reason why right there's a reason where
Tommy D.:the guy who you know want to Title Three years ago has missed
Tommy D.:the playoffs two or three years right Oh, the guy was in the
Tommy D.:finals last year. You know now he's maybe out of the playoff
Tommy D.:picture right that drop off is massive. So yeah, you know this
Tommy D.:time of year is the time that helps your dynasty team like
Tommy D.:this. This is another important part like we talked about like
Tommy D.:the middle of season Yeah, it is important but it's not as like
Tommy D.:this is a time of a season where you should be looking at
Tommy D.:everything like on and off you know, value trying to buy guys
Tommy D.:does runs just like in a draft we see a run on draft pick. This
Tommy D.:is a run of people trying to get their way in these last two
Tommy D.:weeks. Let's go dynasty. You know, bring it on. Let's make
Tommy D.:some trades. Let's make some moves.